Above photo shows the victims of Mexican drug war. The caption of the photo from Big Pictures blog said that the victims were a grandmother and her grand daughter. Even though I felt sorry for the victims I do not have any conflicting thoughts about justice for the victims. Those who killed the innocents will be punished by the Creator of Universe, Allah SWT.
Let’s see the frustration of an atheist who left a comment for the victims
“19 stirs a tremendous amount of rage in me… I have a hard time understanding how a bunch of thugs can be so heartless. Though I don’t believe in a god, I can only hope that these people pay dearly for killing innocent people, be it in this life or the next (if there is such a place).”
19 is the number of above photo. We can see the original nature of Human in his comment.Any human being with right mind frame hate killing of fellow human being. Why people don’t praise the killers, whether be they Hindu, Christian, Jews , Islam or even atheist?.That is innate nature of mankind, human are by default against sins and by default believer of the Creator.
For the above case, there is no way for atheist to get justice in their belief system as they do not believe in hereafter and the Day of Judgment. For the true believers of Allah,they immediately realize that the justice will be done by the Supreme Judge of this Universe and its Creator on the day of Judgment.
Allah created mankind to test, and to elevate their status for those who do good. Allah created mankind to worship, but as following post explains Allah does not need worship of mankind for His existence. Allah created all of us , then test all of us in different ways, and He will judge all of us accordingly on the day of Judgement. Above photo tells all of us many things, such as destiny,justice, and satanic nature of human( those who killed innocents for dirty money), and innate nature of human, that is God loving instinct in our soul.
Following post is thought provoking for those who wish to know the purpose of creation.
Allah knows the best,
Kyaw Kyaw Oo
The Purpose of Creation By: Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips ( Islam Web)
The purpose of creation is a topic that puzzles every human being at some point in his or her lifetime. Everybody, at some time or another, asks themselves the question: “Why do I exist?” or “For what purpose am I here on earth?”
The variety and complexity of the intricate systems, which constitute the fabric of both human beings and the world in which they exist, indicate that there must have been a Supreme Being who created them. Design indicates a designer. When human beings come across footprints on a beach, they immediately conclude that a human being had walked by there some time previously. Keep reading..
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Total Population 56.5 million
Robert
April 18, 2011
False. Justice can be obtained here and now. Police. Courts. Investigators. Laws. Prisons. All testify to our ability to obtain justice in this life.
If justice can only be obtained in “hereafter” and “the Day of Judgment”, then whey have those institutions? Even Muslim countries have them. Why?
I also read the article “Why Allah created mankind?” What I understood is that Allah created mankind to worship Him. But this doesn’t answer the question, because you admit that Allah doesn’t need mankind to worship Him. If no need existed, then why create in the first place? Creation of mankind is superfluous.
kyawkyawoo
April 19, 2011
Dear Robert,
Thank you for your comment and intrest in my post. Hitler killed six million Jews, and later he commited suicide. Had Justice been done for Hitler ? He gave only his only one life, was it equal or to nuliify the death of may be 5999999 Lives.?
There are many people escaping man made law almost every day, drug traffikers to mass murderers, those who quietly siphoned money from the millions of poor people. Still these people were not punished as our legal system fail to prove their guilt beyond resonable doubt. Do you think all those people left this world, is that all ?
If youcarefully read the post ” The purpose of creation” this whole universe is worshipping the creator by following the Divine order, such as this earth rotate a round in 24 hrs to veey precise ansd orderly behaviour of cosmic world.
The author point was worshipping Allah is for our own benifit as Allah does not need our prayer or worship, however human beings those who worship Allah will have
1. Devine guidance
2. Will avoid the shameful acts , sins, crimes
3. Will become homony with the rest of the Universe worshipping Allah by obeying His order.
( Our heart is pumping blood 60-100 bpm, and you are not in controll of your heart, in other words your physical heart obeys Allah order until its last beat)
But some people heart is filled with arrogance, that is denying existance of the Creator.
“Knowledge and arrogance grows together”
Allah knows the best,
Kyaw Kyaw Oo
Robert
April 19, 2011
kyawkyawoo, that many escape justice was not your original argument against atheism. You claimed that, under atheism, there is no way to obtain justice. This is simply unfounded.
I agree with you that some will escape justice, a condition that angers me too. This does not mean, however, that Allah exists. This is known as argument from outrage, a logical fallacy.
The question remains to be answered, “If no need existed, then why create in the first place?”
kyawkyawoo
April 19, 2011
Dear Robert,
To prove existence of Allah, there are signs for those who reelect and ponder. If we know elementary physics, one will realize that existence of Allah is outside our dimension. We do not understand our own mind,consciousness and soul, how are we going to argue the existence of Allah ?
There are many verses in the Holy Quran explaining nature of Allah, again for many centuries people still rejected existence of Allah. That shows the justice and Mercy of Allah, giving all of us freedom of choice.
Are we going to deny existence of our soul just because you can not prove its existence, or it is just chemistry of our brain, gone forever with our demise. Then from where, the abstracts.. LOVE, HATRED,JUSTICE, HUMANITY comes from. Tell me existence of any species comparable to Human Society of this earth? Are all these events just a mere coincidence? OR not the signs of Allah or scientific term Intelligent Design ( Allah =/ Intelligent Design) ?Those who refused to accept the clear signs of Creator are ignorant or arrogant. That is the reason I wrote ” Knowledge and Ignorance grows together”.
Thank you for your comment.
regards, KKO
Robert
April 19, 2011
kyawkyawoo, unfortunately, most of these “proofs” are all of a question-begging nature; that is, they assume Allah’s existence, e.g., ” If we know elementary physics, one will realize that existence of Allah is outside our dimension.” Others are merely “Allah of the gaps” arguments, e.g., “Then from where, the abstracts.. LOVE, HATRED,JUSTICE, HUMANITY”.
This of course is all irrelevant to your claim that under atheism, justice cannot be obtained. Since this is untrue, you should retract that claim.
You also never answered the question, “If no need existed, then why create in the first place?”
kyawkyawoo
April 20, 2011
Robert,
You wrote..
“I agree with you that some will escape justice, a condition that angers me too. This does not mean, however, that Allah exists. This is known as argument from outrage, a logical fallacy.”
It is obvious by your own admission, thus I dot not need to retract my statement.
I was just answering your second question that is existence of Allah. If you wish to know Allah please go straight to his revelation, read with sincere heart.
The standard English translation of the Holy Quran is by Abdullah Yusuf Ali. I wish you find the Truth. Thank you again for your comment.
regards,
Kyaw Kyaw Oo
Robert
April 20, 2011
A logical fallacy means Allah exists?
As for the Qu’ran, I don’t have any reason to think it’s more special than any other so-called holy book. And insofar as it makes the claim that humans were created, that’s been falsified by evolution.
kyawkyawoo
April 21, 2011
Robert,
All your comments were very interesting. I was some how like you last 25 years ago. Holy Quran first revelation ( Surah 96) starts with “read” in other words Allah first word to mankind through Holy Quran is to seek knowledge. The last part of the Surah, revealed many years later mentioned about “Forelock”, that is forehead behind which our frontal lobe of brain situated. Frontal lobe is the center controlling what I am writing to you, my thoughts and knowledge. That is only one example how I started reading and how I found the truth. I have many revert friends who found the Truth by themselves after reading the Holy Book. Read with sincere Heart, you will find connection with Allah Insha Allah, here I use the word CONNECTION WITH ALLAH. Once you get the connection try to keep this connection ( we call Iman) by trying to get closer to HIM. Thanks Robert for your comment for my insignificant blog.
regards,
Kyaw Kyaw Oo
kyawkyawoo
April 21, 2011
Robert,
If you wish to read Surah 96, just click Quran explorer on my left side bar, browse for Surah 96. Holy Quran is not like Bible which is mixed with human interpretation ( St Paul). If you start reading you will immediately know that is not a work of Human. There are many intellectuals some of them started reading Holy Quran with doubts ( if you read Holy Quran after opening chapter, the opening of second chapter starts with the sentence mentioning “doubt” of the people who are reading Holy Quran), to disprove Holy Book finally became believers. Only thing you need is to read with sincerity.
Please try to read the Holy Book, focus on what Allah want you to understand, to believe.
By the way I would like you to suggest to read
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1955636,00.html (Q&A
Is There Such a Thing as Life After Death? from Times magazine. I do not buy all his idea over his website as I am quite clear of what Allah says about afterlife. However those who are not so sure about afterlife, that post will help you as food for thought.
regards,
Kyaw KyawOo